HEROES?

>> Thursday, February 02, 2012

You really should read this post over on Elder of Zion. It concerns the BBC's idea of what makes a hero. Or, as others might call it, a vicious savage who killed two Israeli teenagers. I suppose he had no choice? Utterly repugnant.

24 comments:

sue 9:53 PM, February 02, 2012  

Honest Reporting

john in cheshire 10:05 PM, February 02, 2012  

Sue, the bbc is one sick organisation. I don't believe there is any cure for its condition, other than total destruction.

Martin 10:14 PM, February 02, 2012  

The BBC are pure vile scum.

pounce_uk 10:17 PM, February 02, 2012  

Err guys I don't really wish to blow my own trumpet, but I think you will find I beat big nose to the punch on this story.

cjhartnett 10:33 PM, February 02, 2012  

"Jailed for his role in the murders..." ?
Rather like Shipman was jailed for his role in pre-empting the Assisted Dying Bill?...or Ian Brady and his role in reducing the pressure on school places?
F*** me!...the BBC are fast turning into Goebbels with an aromatherapy oil burner aren`t they?

cjhartnett 10:36 PM, February 02, 2012  

Oh wait!
Just heard Emily Maitlis say that she has Giles Fraser in the studio to-and I quote-"ask if the church should bend to the prevailing political winds of the day"...or suchlike!
Ooh...ooh...let me guess...and I`ll not think of switching off the telly until I get my answer!

magiclantern1 11:22 PM, February 02, 2012  

It really does expose the wickeness of this vile organisation.

Simply shocking.

John Horne Tooke 12:00 AM, February 03, 2012  

A reminder of what this murderer did.
"The two youths, Ronen Karamani, 18, and Lior Tubul, 17, were last seen Saturday night at the close of the Jewish holy day when friends dropped them off on a main road leading north from Jerusalem.

They had said they intended to hitchhike to the home of Tubul's girlfriend, who lives in the northern suburb of Givat Zeev and was about to leave on vacation in Eilat.

When the two youths did not arrive, police were notified, and search parties were organized. Helicopters, trained dogs and professional trackers took part in the search.

About 1:30 p.m. Monday, searchers found the bodies about 20 yards apart in a ravine off the road. One bore about 50 stab wounds, witnesses said, and the other's skull had been bludgeoned.

"The way they were tied down, the way they were stabbed points definitely to a political murder," Turner was quoted as saying. "There was no reason to think that these two normal, good teen-agers were murdered for any criminal reason."

Late Monday, police began a massive search for the killers, believed to be Arabs who picked the boys up on the road"
http://articles.latimes.com/1990-08-07/news/mn-185_1_israeli-youths

Now a story by the BBC on the release of a convicted ETA terrorist.

"The decision outraged groups representing the victims of Eta, whose militants have killed more than 800 people in their four-decade long fight for an independent Basque state.

"This is not a game," insisted Angeles Pedraza, president of the Association of the Victims of Terrorism, who complained that convicted terrorists were being treated more favourably than paedophiles or rapists.

"We're talking about killers and there should only be one path for them: they should be judged, sentenced and then made to spend every year of their sentence in prison," Mr Pedraza said on Tuesday."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13145669

The BBC really are made up of  nasty anti-semites

wild 12:53 AM, February 03, 2012  

If I was a British Jew the thought that I am forced to pay for the BBC would make me physically sick.

Alfie Pacino 2:03 AM, February 03, 2012  

Murder = role in resistance in occupation?

Dear God!

Alfie Pacino 2:06 AM, February 03, 2012  

To summarise - Murder = Resistance to occupation...
Dear God!
Barff!

ian 2:52 AM, February 03, 2012  

Would I get a sympathetic hearing from the BBC if I blew up Broadcasting House?

john in cheshire 9:02 AM, February 03, 2012  

ian, only if you were a muslim freedom fighter, determined to show the world that islam is truly the religion of peace; or is that pieces (of body parts)?

noggin 9:18 AM, February 03, 2012  

The palestinian arm of the biased broadcasting cresent, completely abhorrent
The bar gets lower again, is it possible to get any lower in shameful propaganda?

might as well start exposing them on memri tv .... vile

Span Ows 9:42 AM, February 03, 2012  

oi, who are you calling big nose, big nose.

DP111 10:57 AM, February 03, 2012  

From the BBC link

Shammasina was sentenced to 23 years in jail for his role in the 1990 murder of three Israelis and a further 20 years for planning a kidnapping. Despite spending almost half his life in prison, he does not regret his actions.

"When there is an occupation, you're forced to," he says. "It's your duty, the duty of every Palestinian, to resist the occupation. If I didn't resist, I would just have surrendered."

Then at the end of the article

Both deny that they are a security threat to Israel. 

Their fervent hope is that the Israelis will one day agree and allow them to return to the West Bank.
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So they do not regret what they did. That means if they get an opportunity, they will murder more Israelis. 

BTW, has anyone pointed out that the BBC could be an antisemtic organisation?

pounce_uk 11:13 AM, February 03, 2012  

Span Owls wrote:
<span>"oi, who are you calling big nose, big nose."</span>
My big nosed reply taken from Cyrano de Bergerac:

My nose is Gargantuan! You little Pig-snout, you tiny Monkey-Nostrils, you virtually invisible Pekinese-Puss, don't you realize that a nose like mine is both scepter and orb, a monument to my superiority? A great nose is the banner of a great man, a generous heart, a towering spirit, an expansive soul--such as I unmistakably am, and such as you dare not to dream of being, with your bilious weasel's eyes and no nose to keep them apart! 

Not to be taken seriously but looking in the mirror (and my shadow) I feel that puts me well in front.

dave s 11:41 AM, February 03, 2012  

The BBC reporter and the entire news organisation will live to regret this.
AS with the Fogel family it will not be forgotten.

sue 1:02 PM, February 03, 2012  

Whereas mine is tiny and delicate, but finely-tuned to sniff out stories wherever they are buried. (Apart from yours on that particular open thread.) Oops. :*

sue 1:07 PM, February 03, 2012  

Forgot to mention - there is a slight but significant  difference between Elder of Ziyon and Elder of Zion

The Cattle Prod of Destiny 5:17 PM, February 03, 2012  

Nor forgiven ...

caroline stanley 7:30 PM, February 03, 2012  

So, what are we going to do about it?

dave s 7:34 PM, February 03, 2012  

I have been re reading the BBC news report. It does not get any better.
The classic liberal argument that puts "context" above all else. Thus the context of the Palestinian situation is used to absolve an individual of responsibility for his actions.
Besides infantilising that man by somehow absolving him of responsibility it also means that those past actions which led to the present can only be viewed in " context". In this case the alleged Israeli occupation.
The victims are no longer important. They belong to the past and must be viewed in "context".
The liberal uses this as a way of avoiding facing up to the reality of what actually happened .What happened was a brutal slaying carried out by a man who , if morality is to mean anything at all, must take responsibility and suffer judgement.
The BBC reporter shows no sign of understanding this . Liberal morality is all sympathy and a refusal to judge. It is without merit , cowardly and anti life.

Roland Deschain 5:29 PM, February 09, 2012  

Test

Antony Jay

"But we were not just anti-Macmillan; we were anti-industry, anti-capitalism, anti-advertising, anti-selling, anti-profit, anti-patriotism, anti-monarchy, anti-Empire, anti-police, anti-armed forces, anti-bomb, anti-authority. Almost anything that made the world a freer, safer and more prosperous place, you name it, we were anti it."
Antony Jay, Telegraph, July 2007

Andrew Marr

"..the final answer, frankly, is the vigorous use of state power to coerce and repress. It may be my Presbyterian background, but I firmly believe that repression can be a great, civilising instrument for good. Stamp hard on certain 'natural' beliefs for long enough and you can almost kill them off."
Andrew Marr, The Guardian Feb. 1999

Jeremy Paxman

"But the bigger question is whether the BBC itself has a future. Working for it has always been a bit like living in Stalin’s Russia, with one five-year-plan, one resoundingly empty slogan after another. One BBC, Making it Happen, Creative Futures, they all blur into one great vacuous blur. I can’t even recall what the current one is. Rather like Stalin’s Russia, they express a belief that the system will go on forever."
Jeremy Paxman, The James McTaggart Memorial, 24th August 2007

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