COPENHAGEN CHALLENGE

>> Wednesday, December 09, 2009

So far, the BBC is totally silent on the Copenhagen Climate Challenge, an open letter to the UN signed by 141 leading international scientists who work in relevant fields. It challenges them to provide hard evidence on 10 questions relating to alleged AGW, including whether CO2 rises are causing harm, whether surface station measurements are accurate, and whether there has been a threatening rise in sea levels due to 'climate change' or an increase in hurricanes. I would like to be pleasantly surprised by seeing this splendid initiative reported soon by the BBC - it would make a lively item on Today, for example. But I'm not holding my breath.

18 comments:

Steve Swales 8:55 AM, December 09, 2009  

As part of its focus on green issues in advance of the Copenhagen Summit, 5 Live Drive reported on a "Sustainable Dance Floor" in Rotterdam on Tuesday evening. It's good to see that they are sticking with the important issues and not getting distracted by environmental fripperies!

Martin 9:48 AM, December 09, 2009  

Have the BBC reported on the sustainable drugs economy yet? I'm sure that's on their list

fred bloggs 11:41 AM, December 09, 2009  

Don't see how they can stay silent on the subject having sent 39 people to Copenhagen.  Or is this a Christmas Jolly in liew of bonuses.

fred bloggs 11:59 AM, December 09, 2009  

OFF SUJECT: Bias needs to look at the quote from Peston this morning on R4.  He is getting privaledged info from the gov; again.

moorlandhunter 2:03 PM, December 09, 2009  

You know I just get so angry regarding the lies over MMCC and the fact that NO news organisation ever brings up the issue that MMCC is nothing but a lie. What are we who deny MMCC going to have to do to get the full facts out to the public without the bias that seems to be endemic throughout the world?
The MMCC alarmists are like facless automatrons spouting out bilge and getting angry with anyone who questions their lies.

The Beebinator 2:11 PM, December 09, 2009  

if Al Beeb report the Copenhagen Challenge then i'll shave all my hair off and use it to make a wig for Dick Black the eco-twat

Martin 3:34 PM, December 09, 2009  

I see the case against the two Hoteliers and the Muzzi bint has been dismissed. Coapre and contract the report of the original story and the one today.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/8401685.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/8404212.stm

The BBC don't seem happy with the result.

Roger C 4:26 PM, December 09, 2009  

Just what I was thinking Martin, this has gone the wrong way for the BBC muslin apologists.

Asuka Langley Soryu 4:47 PM, December 09, 2009  

I'm a muslin apologist. I like to make jam. There - I said it.

Millie Tant 4:49 PM, December 09, 2009  

I had to laugh at this quote:

"I'm a normal Warrington girl who liked the Beatles."

This from a woman of mature years - she is only 60! -  who apparently recently converted to Islam and took to wearing that garb and all. Then went running to the police alleging that someone said that bloke was a warlord and murderer etc. Silly or what? There is no end to silliness in some people. But then look at the law! If you can be prosecuted for saying something like that, well truth must be the first casualty of that particular example of the law being an ass. Then freedom of course.

 With the law being the ass that it is, why isn't it taking people to court for saying that Jesus isn't God but merely a minor prophet, that Christian Crusaders killed people and blah blah blah ad infinitum, listing the crimes and misdemeanors of Christians and Christianity down the ages? And what things are said about Jews?

 If you are going to be an ass, the least you could do would be to make a proper fist of it, be a thoroughgoing unashamed ass and not some mealy mouthed pale imitation. Yeah, go on, show us the full glory and power of Assdom!

David Preiser (USA) 5:24 PM, December 09, 2009  

The first report sure does hype it as a religious war prosecuted by nasty Christians.  Scenes from church are highly inappropriate here, and are included only to play up the nasty Christian angle.  That shows where the BBC's sympathies lie pretty clearly.  The follow up nearly sweeps the reasons for dismissal under the rug, and the title on the video clip is still the accusatory one from before.  No surprise there.

Martin 5:26 PM, December 09, 2009  

Notice how the BBC got CHRISTIANS into the title, yet the other day when Baroness Warsi was attached by MUSLIM males you couldn't find that fact out until something like the 3rd or 4th paragraph.

David Preiser (USA) 6:24 PM, December 09, 2009  

Fair point.  And when was the last time they showed video of Mohammedans praying inside a mosque when one of them was on trial for something connected to their religious beliefs?  Never.

Millie Tant 7:30 PM, December 09, 2009  

I just caught this in the TV listings for a Horizon programme on at 9 tonight:

"Naturalist Sir David Attenborough investigates whether the world faces a population crisis. He reflects on the impact of a doubling in world population during his <span style="">career</span>. While much of the projected population growth is in the developing world, it is the lifestyle enjoyed by many in the West that has the most impact on the planet."

Ha! It's all the fault of those evil Westerners.  Thanks for the tip, BBC. No need for us to watch it, then.

John Horne Tooke 8:38 PM, December 09, 2009  

But in the words of our Great leader, these people are "flat earthers", their qualifications mean nothing. Now if it was some idiot from Greenpeace then Gordon would respect it.

"Something is rotten in the state of Denmark."

deegee 9:56 PM, December 09, 2009  

Now if it was some idiot from Greenpeace then Gordon would respect it.

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Enzo 11:49 PM, December 09, 2009  

<span style="color: #000000;">http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...ay-danish-text</span>

<span style="color: #ff00ff;">"The UN Copenhagen climate talks are in disarray today after developing countries reacted furiously to leaked documents that show world leaders will next week be asked to sign an agreement that hands more power to rich countries and sidelines the UN's role in all future climate change negotiations.

"The document also sets unequal limits on per capita carbon emissions for developed and developing countries in 2050; meaning that people in rich countries would be permitted to emit nearly twice as much under the proposals."</span>

This isn't quite correct, as we know. This is all about handing more power to the rich bloodlines that run 'rich' and 'poor' countries alike. The poor countries have been suckered into this process, thinking that they'll get money out of it.

It'll be nice if this squabble is real and that the Copenhagen deal gets scuppered. But it's probably a stage-managed squabble so that Obama can come and save the day at the very end.

David Preiser (USA) 1:47 AM, December 10, 2009  

Here's another lovely facet of this whole Warmism nonsense that the BBC doesn't want you to know about:

Carbon Credit fraud causes more than 5 billion euros damage for European taxpayer

According to Europol:


The European Union (EU) Emission Trading System (ETS) has been the victim of fraudulent traders in the past 18 months. This resulted in losses of approximately 5 billion euros for several national tax revenues. It is estimated that in some countries, up to 90% of the whole market volume was caused by fraudulent activities.

What a shock.  Think there'll be a special Newsnight segment on this?  A mention on Today?  Will Robert Peston or Gavin Hewitt blog about it?  Don't hold your breath.

Antony Jay

"But we were not just anti-Macmillan; we were anti-industry, anti-capitalism, anti-advertising, anti-selling, anti-profit, anti-patriotism, anti-monarchy, anti-Empire, anti-police, anti-armed forces, anti-bomb, anti-authority. Almost anything that made the world a freer, safer and more prosperous place, you name it, we were anti it."
Antony Jay, Telegraph, July 2007

Andrew Marr

"..the final answer, frankly, is the vigorous use of state power to coerce and repress. It may be my Presbyterian background, but I firmly believe that repression can be a great, civilising instrument for good. Stamp hard on certain 'natural' beliefs for long enough and you can almost kill them off."
Andrew Marr, The Guardian Feb. 1999

Jeremy Paxman

"But the bigger question is whether the BBC itself has a future. Working for it has always been a bit like living in Stalin’s Russia, with one five-year-plan, one resoundingly empty slogan after another. One BBC, Making it Happen, Creative Futures, they all blur into one great vacuous blur. I can’t even recall what the current one is. Rather like Stalin’s Russia, they express a belief that the system will go on forever."
Jeremy Paxman, The James McTaggart Memorial, 24th August 2007

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